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Who are you talking to? Did an ancap setup those legalese deceptions like BAR association or whatever? Am I the person forcing those bs state laws and legislation on you?
You are talking about how British Monarchs forcing their bs on people, using state monopoly on violence, and then ask people on your FB friends list, who are against such statists like the british crown, do we want to support these things? No we don't.
Where did any ancap support British Crown or royal family? Or any other form of state monopoly on violence?
I'm as opposed to them as you are.
I'm not the guy you have a fight against. You are misdirecting anger caused by various statists that hurt you, to ancaps who are on your side.

He can't even define what capitalism is... Just that whatever it is. he is against it. So I can not learn what he is actually against.

Dale Eastman define frapatalism for me?

Did you even bother to read what you replied to?

Dale Eastman yes, I said the definitions don't jive with reality unless you read it in legalese. Explain where in this definition an anarchist belongs:

Private owners means NOT government owners.

Dale Eastman government being who?

There is no government! Only corporations. The BAR is a private owner, central banks are private owners.

Dale Eastman CAPITALISM

CAPITIS DIMINUTIO Definition & Legal Meaning
Definition & Citations:
In Roman law, A diminishing or abridgment of personality. Tills was a loss or curtailment of a man’s status or aggregate of legal attributes and qualifications, following upon certain changes in his civil condition. It was of three kinds, enumerated as follows: Capitis diminutio maxima. The highest or most comprehensive loss of status. This occurred when a man’s condition was changed from one of freedom to one of bondage, when he became a slave. It swept away with it all rights of citizenship and all family rights. Capitis diminutio media. A lesser or medium loss of status. This occurred where a man lost his rights of citizenship, but without losing his liberty. It carried away also the family rights. Capitis diminutio minima. Tile lowest or least comprehensive degree of loss of status. This occurred where a man’s family relations alone were changed. It happened upon the arrogation of a person who had been his own master, (sui juris,) or upon the emancipation of one who had been under the patria potestas. It left the rights of liberty and citizenship unaltered. See Inst. 1, 1G, pr.; 1, 2, 3; Dig. 4, 5, 11; Mackeld. Rom. Law.

The legal deception isn't my opinion, you should know better about this.

Dale Eastman capitalism is a spook. That's it, it's a made up black magic word of the ruling class hiding behind the BAR mafia. I don't care what you call me. I don't have to understand perfectly how bullshit got here, what it's exact contents are, or why, to know it's bullshit and not capitalism. I went through the ancap stage. I used to think anarchy, capitalism, and freedom were basically synonymous, but I hadn't yet discovered the legal duplicitous treachery that kept me blind for my whole life. Examples of the true ownership include a certificate of title, motor vehicle registration, and property tax. No one truly owns anything so how can you call it a free market? That's like saying slaves swapping chores on the plantation are capitalists. I can't give you a clear definition of capitalism in so many words. Best I can tell it is a bit of colonialism, piracy, slave trading, and how large fictional criminal entities do business.

BM: ➽ I can't give you a clear definition of capitalism in so many words.
BM: ➽ Dale Eastman we're obviously not comprehending each other.

Do you think those two issues might... Just might... be related?

I understand that you are against CAPITALISM. Since you can't give a clear definition of what CAPITALISM is, then you can't give me an understanding of what, specifically, you are against. You then attempt conflation to bring things not within the definition in as if those things are the definition.

You rejected the few dictionary definitions I presented as a starting point to discuss what CAPITALISM is. I can set those definition to the side for now.

What does the term PROFIT mean to you?

In capitalism, you either own/control serious capital, or you are human capital. So which is it with you? What kind of capital do you own? Please be laconic. I don't have time for another essay.

Dale Eastman we're slaves arguing over the bullshit concepts given to us by the overlords who will never let us own anything or trade freely.

Capitalism = Corporatism. Even an individual must use his corporate personhood to access commerce.

ST: ➽ Please be laconic. I don't have time for another essay.

TRANSLATION: He doesn't want to support his undefined beliefs. Just swallow his conflations un-critically,

ST: ➽ In capitalism, you either own/control serious capital, SNIP!

What, exactly, do you mean with that particular use of the word capital? NOTE: At the moment, I am only interested in your first use to the word.

ST: ➽ In capitalism, [...] or you are human capital.

At this moment, I am interested in What, exactly, do you mean with that particular phrase?

ST: ➽ What kind of capital do you own?

What kind of WHAT do I own and keep in my sock drawer?

BM: ➽ Dale Eastman we're slaves.

Some more than others. I accept that comment at face value as I have quoted it.

BM: ➽ Dale Eastman we're slaves arguing over the bullshit concepts

You and I ARE NOT arguing over the single concept of CAPITALISM. You have NOT defined what the concept of CAPITALISM actually is, so how the fuck am I going to argue with you in regard to this concept?

BM: ➽ Dale Eastman we're slaves arguing over the bullshit concepts given to us by the overlords.

The concepts given to us by the overlords is something entirely different from the concept of CAPITALISM. Have you bothered to look through my website?

BM: ➽ Capitalism = Corporatism.

What, exactly, do you mean by your use of the word CORPORATISM?

BM: ➽ Even an individual must use his corporate personhood to access commerce.

What, exactly, do you mean by your use of the word COMMERCE?

SECOND INQUIRY: What does the term PROFIT mean to you?

Dale Eastman commerce as defined and regulated by the corporate BAR cabal, covering all the land with legal commercial systems.... have you not looked into your Birth Certificate Corporate Person?
Profit is a legal term I'm sure.
There is no sense carrying this on, we're not speaking the same language or something. I told you capitalism as it is defined and how it functions in society is a spook. You want me to define imaginary for you? Corporatism I could define in great detail encompassing all most all facets of life from the individual's assigned NAME, to government corps to Raytheon to teachers unions to the courts. ALL COMMERCE and governed by commercial fictional institutions seeking ill gotten gains.

Dale Eastman my conclusion is, you don't even know what capital is if you think you can fit it in your socks. And by the way you're dodging my questions.

DE: ➽ What, exactly, do you mean by your use of the word COMMERCE?
BM: ➽ Dale Eastman commerce as defined and regulated by the corporate BAR cabal, covering all the land with legal commercial systems.... have you not looked into your Birth Certificate Corporate Person?

I DID NOT ask you about the "corporate BAR cabal's definition did I?
I asked you:
What, exactly, do you mean by your use of the word COMMERCE?

DE: ➽ What does the term PROFIT mean to you?
BM: ➽ Profit is a legal term I'm sure.

You DID NOT answer my question.

BM: ➽ There is no sense carrying this on, we're not speaking the same language or something.

YOU are the communication error. You use words, I ask you to provide what you mean by your use of those words. You are unable to do so.

BM: ➽ I told you capitalism as it is defined and how it functions in society is a spook.

Dale... Remember, his insanity is part of your reality.

Recap: You're against CAPITALISM but you are unable to define what it actually is so I can understand what you are against.

Lemme put the context up to shed light to better understand your stated conclusion.

ST: ➽ In capitalism, you either own/control serious capital, SNIP!
DE: ➽ What, exactly, do you mean with that particular use of the word capital? 
ST: ➽ What kind of capital do you own?
DE: ➽ What kind of WHAT do I own[...]

Dale Eastman my conclusion is, you don't even know what capital is if you think you can fit it in your socks.

You have YET to present a definition of CAPITAL.

ST: ➽ And by the way you're dodging my questions.

I told you, I am a pedantic asshole. Here's the questions you asked and the date-time Fecalbook logged them.

17 June 22:07What's there even to debate?
18 June 14:29Also, using all these definitions, who owns the shit?
18 June 14:29What if only the lucky few do?
21 June 09:13So which is it with you?
21 June 09:13What kind of capital do you own?

Perhaps you will re-ask the question you have become anxious that I fail\ed to address in a more precise manner?

Dale Eastman It's really simple. I only care about a free market and property rights. Capitalism provides neither, prove me wrong.

in capitalism, those who have, are making profits, and the have-nots are contributing to the profits of those who have.

Capital is made up wealth in a debt based criminal empire, that's why the ism doesn't make any sense.

BM: ➽ Dale Eastman It's really simple. I only care about a free market and property rights. Capitalism provides neither, prove me wrong.

Let me make sure I'm understanding your challenge. I'm supposed to prove you wrong about a concept you refuse to define?

BM: ➽ Capital is made up wealth in a debt based criminal empire,

What, specifically, do YOU mean by WEALTH?

Dale Eastman wealth is just paper. No one owns anything! Title is held by the corporate state. Capital is bank printing fiat and charging interest.

I can't define a made up word but you can't reconcile reality with the definition if your made up bullshit ruling class word.

Dale Eastman can you reconcile the definition with the reality on the ground? I can't, that's why I attack it. I have alternatives and solutions but I can't redefine something that makes no sense from the start.

Dale Eastman in actuality no individual owns anything or has any recognized rights by the system so the definitions of capitalism you presented are utter bullshit. That's my point, and thank you for supporting it with your observations of the fruitlessness of arguing about which type of slave plantation you live under.
Capitalism is a deceptive fiction of the ruling class. What else can I say about a system of collectivism, taxation, title trickery, exploitation, monopoly....

Dale Eastman authoritarian collectivism is any system in which some people rule others based on coercion and theft. It includes socialism, communism, fascism, technocracy, and capitalism. They're all slavery systems and the ruling class will use whichever works best for them.

It's simple. Capitalism though it claims so, doesn't actually recognize individual claims of ownership or property, nor does it have anything to do with free markets. It's strictly for the legally dead, that is corporations, not the living and lawful.

Dale Eastman thanks for kudos, asshole. Also, using all these definitions, who owns the shit? What if only the lucky few do? And having control of all essential resources, they enslaved everybody else as their capital, because, remember, human resource is capital as well, they own your lame ass too. And you proudly defend their right to do so.

ST: ➽ Dale Eastman thanks for kudos, asshole.

I gave an honest appreciation that you know what etymology is and you chose to interpret that appreciation as an insult.

BM: ➽ Dale Eastman in actuality no individual owns anything or has any recognized rights by the system so the definitions of capitalism you presented are utter bullshit.

My not understanding exactly what 𝓨𝓞𝓤 mean when 𝓨𝓞𝓤 use the word-term "𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞" is severely limits communication and mutual understanding... So be a good discussion pardner and present 𝓨𝓞𝓤𝓡 articulate and factual definition of 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞.

As to the rest of your unsupported opinion in that sentence, Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

BM: ➽ the definitions of capitalism you presented are utter bullshit.
ST: ➽ Dale Eastman every time I debate with a supporter of capitalism they never agree with any dictionary definition and are not familiar with the etymology of the word.

What, specifically, are the traits, properties, attributes, characteristics & elements of 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞? Neither of you have presented a cogent definition of 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞.

What the both of you have presented is that you are both against 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞, what-ever-the-fuck 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞 is, yet you fail to articulate logic and reason to sway me to agree with you that 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞-bad.

Sheesh! I'm to agree with you that some-thing-bad but neither of you can define what the bad thing is.

BM:➽ Capitalism is a deceptive fiction of the ruling class.

You make a claim about something 𝓨𝓞𝓤 have refused to cogently define... Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

BM:➽ What else can I say about a system of collectivism, taxation, title trickery, exploitation, monopoly....

Verifiable facts proving your claims, else Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

BM:➽ Dale Eastman authoritarian collectivism is any system in which some people rule others based on coercion and theft.

Thank you for addressing my question.
Sorry. My error. That definition does not compile.

What is collectivism?

DE:➽ I do not understand what 𝓨𝓞𝓤 mean when 𝓨𝓞𝓤 use the word-term "𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞".
BM:➽ It's simple. Capitalism though it claims so, doesn't actually recognize individual claims of ownership or property, nor does it have anything to do with free markets. It's strictly for the legally dead, that is corporations, not the living and lawful.

Sorry. You have not given me anything I can use to understand what 𝓨𝓞𝓤 mean when 𝓨𝓞𝓤 use the word-term "𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞".

ST: ➽ Also, using all these definitions,
ST: ➽ every time I debate with a supporter of capitalism they never agree with any dictionary definition

You can NOT have this both ways.

NOTICE: I have spent several 𝓨𝓔𝓐𝓡𝓢 attempting to understand what those such as yourself actually think in regard to 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞... In what appears to have been a mostly futile effort on my part.

ST: ➽ who owns the shit?

Yes. Who owns the shit?

What, specifically, are you referring to as "the shit"?
Once I understand what you are specifically referring to, then I can determine if I agree, disagree, or need more info.

ST: ➽ What if only the lucky few do?

Too much dangling, non defined "things".

ST: ➽ And having control of all essential resources,

Missing is the list of these "essential resources".

To be drilled down on in later discussion, What is being controlled and how is this control being exercised?

ST: ➽ they enslaved everybody else as their capital,

What, specifically, is 𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝?

ST: ➽ because, remember, human resource is capital as well

You're missing a few details, so I can not at this time, sign off on that definition.

ST: ➽ they own your lame ass too.

That is what is referred to as a "naked assertion". EVIDENCE?

ST: ➽ And you proudly defend their right to do so.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

Capitalism is basically a bully with monopoly on violence claiming something as his property and having papers to prove it.

Capitalism is inherently exploitive. Capitol = chattel.

➽ Capitalism is inherently exploitive. Capitol = chattel.

Hi B... Pedantic Asshole Dale here.

Nebulously defined terms have no place in serious discussions. I read your words as an invite to a serious discussion about..."Capitalism".

okay

I'm pretty sure I stuck the hook up the worm's butt.

Dale Eastman capitalism has nothing to do with property ownership or free trade does it? It has more in common with a hook up a worm's butt.

You and I do NOT have an agreement on what "capitalism" is...
Other than a 10 character word.

The relationship of X to Y or to Z can not be examined unless X is rigidly defined.

My not understanding exactly what 𝓨𝓞𝓤 mean when 𝓨𝓞𝓤 use the word-term "𝕔𝕒𝕡𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕞" is severely limits communication and mutual understanding.

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Dale Eastman So you are Sovereign Citizen type of fellow, cool, good luck with that.

Mr. O.
Yes. I accept your implied invite to a discussion.

I snooped your wall. I wanted to make sure you weren't a certain weed smoking country musician.

In doing so, I found out you know, or you should know, that a black wire will knock your dick into your watch pocket. So I am going to ask you a construction related segue question: Do you start a task assuming those red, blue, or black wires are not hot?

You look old enough to know that to ass-u-me is to make an ass outa you and me.

I am curious. Why would you assume I am Sovereign Citizen?

I refuse to make certain assumptions... So I ask for clarification. What, exactly, do 𝓨𝓞𝓤 mean when 𝓨𝓞𝓤 call me a "Sovereign Citizen"?

If fact, I often attempt to drill down to get at the minutia. So I follow-up with this question: What, specifically, are the traits, properties, attributes, characteristics & elements of a "Sovereign Citizen"?

I am also curious, why did you basically ignore the question? Did I word it in a way that you couldn't understand? If so, I apologize. Sorry. How can I help you understand the purpose of the question?