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PS again.
Dale Eastman:
--- Quote from: 1942 6JUNE2022 ---Simple question: are you EVER going to make an argument?
I mean, everyone sees what you’re doing.
You realize that with any rational definition of slavery, nobody wants to enslave you.
So you’re fishing for some angle by which to play a word game where you can substitute some insane definition of slavery for an actual one, and say “lots of people want to do THAT, so see? Everybody wants to enslave me!!!”
Hence the award for best supporting actress in a dramatic performance, lol.
It’s lame and pathetic - and I mean pathetic as in “loaded to the gills with pathos”.
Have a nice evening.
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--- Quote from: 1416 7JUNE2022 ---➽ Simple question: are you EVER going to make an argument?
Before you and I can have a discussion, we need to come to an agreement as to what specific terms mean to each of us.
What are the specific traits, properties, attributes, & characteristics of "argument" as YOU use the word?
Are you using the word "argument" to mean "make a claim"?
If so, I did make a specific claim. I claimed: ⚡A human with a gun will not gently become a slave.⚡
Transforming the statement by substituting YOUR meaning for slave nets the following:
A human with a gun will not gently become a "ownership of another human being, including the rights to enjoy the fruit of their production, the right to alienate or dispose of them, and the right to mandate, unilaterally without their input or consent, the rules by which they must work and live, including the same rights to their offspring."
Translating:
A human with a gun will not gently become "[owned by] another human being, [lose] the rights to enjoy the fruit of their production, [lose] the right to [not be] mandate[d], unilaterally without their input or consent, [lose the right to choose] the rules by which they [will] work and live[...]"
Instead of addressing this argument/ claim, you chose to make your own argument/ claim: ➽ Dale: nobody wants to make you a slave.
OBJECTION! Relies on facts not in evidence. Please present your evidence that not one person of the approximately 7.9 billion (7,952,347,000) people on the planet do not want to make me a slave.
Or man up and 'fess to making shit up.
➽ I mean, everyone sees what you’re doing.
I certainly hope so. Just as I hope they are seeing what you are doing. I am publicly archiving this discussion on my web site. Do you want me to use your name or should I continue to hide your identity by only using your initials?
➽ You realize that with any rational definition of slavery, nobody wants to enslave you.
Your bullshit made up claim didn't fly the first time. It isn't flying now either.
➽ So you’re fishing for some angle by which to play a word game where you can substitute some insane definition of slavery for an actual one, and say “lots of people want to do THAT, so see? Everybody wants to enslave me!!!”
You know you can't have it both ways. We are playing 20 questions so I can use YOUR (allegedly not insane) definition of slavery. Methinks ye forgot my early words: ⚡Before you and I can have a discussion, we need to come to an agreement as to what specific terms mean to each of us.⚡
Earlier you admitted that enslavement happens: ➽ By force.
You also stated: ➽ But that doesn’t mean force is always bad.
So I asked: ⚡Is force bad when it is used to enslave people?⚡
I'm changing the question: ⚡Is using force to enslave people moral?⚡
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Dale Eastman:
--- Quote from: 1848 7JUNE2022 ---Dale, oh ffs. Please stop tagging me.
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--- Quote from: 1859 7JUNE2022 ---Oh FFS, answer some questions about your claims.
Earlier you admitted that enslavement happens: ➽ By force.
You also stated: ➽ But that doesn’t mean force is always bad.
⚡Is using force to enslave people moral?⚡
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Dale Eastman:
--- Quote from: 1916 7JUNE2022 ---Scratch a libertarian, and underneath you’ll see an authoritarian demanding you answer his questions.
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--- Quote from: 1919 7JUNE2022 ---Ask a coward a question about their claims and they won't answer because the question brings attention to the fact that their claim is bullshit.
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Dale Eastman:
--- Quote from: 1922 7JUNE2022 ---Coward?
You think it takes any bravery to talk shit on Facebook?
Good lord, get a life.
You’re just offering nothing but the usual cookie cutter nonsense from libertarians who have been blinkered by gurus and do nothing but parrot the same things, usually in the form of questions.
Been to this rodeo many, many times, and it’s just neither interesting nor entertaining anymore.
I have no interest in reliving Groundhog Day.
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--- Quote from: 0726 8JUNE2022 ---➽ You’re just offering nothing but the usual cookie cutter nonsense from libertarians who have been blinkered by gurus and do nothing but parrot the same things, usually in the form of questions.
I find your presentment of your thoughts fascinating.
You make claims without evidence.
You refuse to present evidence for your claims.
You spew words and refuse to define what YOU specifically mean by the words you use.
You reject my questions about your claims.
You reject my questions about your evidence.
You reject my questions about what you mean when you use any specific word.
You do as many other people do, you try to pigeon hole me into one of your predefined labels.
➽ nonsense from libertarians
Since you denigrate "libertarians" I assume you mean to imply that what ever they are, you are not. Since the base word is "liberty" and I do know what that word means, you have presented yourself as being against liberty.
I don't know what a "libertarian" is... Because I'm not into pigeon hole labels like you are. I don't know what YOU mean when you use the word "libertarian", That's why I ask questions such as this one:
What are the specific traits, properties, attributes, & characteristics of "libertarian" as YOU use the word?
➽ You think it takes any bravery to talk shit on Facebook?
Since you talk shit on Fecalbook, answer your own question coward.
It takes bravery to answer questions you know will prove you wrong.
It also takes bravery to take a moral stance.
Which means it take bravery to answer questions about your moral stance.
Earlier you admitted that enslavement happens: ➽ By force.
You also stated: ➽ But that doesn’t mean force is always bad.
⚡Is using force to enslave people moral?⚡
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