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Dale Eastman:
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--- Quote ---shall we discuss it here in case i succeed and you have to put it on your website?
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--- Quote ---first, give me your definitions for government, criminal, syndicate, extorts, people, money, control, so semantics cannot be the reason we don't agree. if its just standard dictionary, just say that and i can check myself
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--- Quote ---I can't comment on Facebook for 5 more days
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--- Quote ---My first point is syndicate. What is this in particular?
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--- Quote ---Trilateral, Bohemian, majestic 12, Illuminati, Masons, etc etc? Or something specific
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Ryan:
Ok , so tell me about your syndicate, please
Dale Eastman:
--- Quote ---give me your definitions for [...] so semantics cannot be the reason we don't agree.
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Kudos and increased respect. Yes!
--- Quote ---Ok , so tell me about your syndicate, please
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On this one this dictionary search synopsis fits:
--- Quote ---noun a group of individuals or organizations combined or making a joint effort to undertake some specific duty or carry out specific transactions or negotiations: The local furniture store is individually owned, but is part of a buying syndicate.
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So, all the people that work in government, be it as officers, employees, or elected officials.
extortion: "Do what we tell you to do or we will hurt you."
Ryan:
OK, so a syndicate is a group of private individuals. Already that is not Government. A syndicate can be anything a group of individuals get together to do that involves "import/export" or buying and selling. On the other hand, it hinges on criminal.
A criminal syndicate, like the mafia in Sicily, has syndications as the mob/mafia here in the states and elsewhere. This is not just any commerce, but "black market" commerce.
This syndicate, the private people who work government buying and selling on the black market using..."extortion". "do this or else..." a veiled threat, at least. a threat of violence.
Markets are manipulated, countries couped and sovereign citizens are denied their access to the political means of production with violence. Often no threat given. But threats as well.
This is The United States Government as it currently is, not as all governments are or must be. The US Government is Corporate Socialism. The State is owned by the donor class. This is the private group of individuals doing criminal things via extortion.
For Example, The Federal Reserve and Central Banksters in general.
Then there is the original point. Government is not a private industry. It is a public one. The private individual syndicates are us. We are the ones accepting and allowing the other private individuals to do their thing.
Dale Eastman:
--- Quote from: Ryan on April 03, 2021, 04:08:29 PM ---OK, so a syndicate is a group of private individuals. Already that is not Government. A syndicate can be anything a group of individuals get together to do that involves "import/export" or buying and selling. On the other hand, it hinges on criminal.
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Except the quoted definition does not say "private" individuals.
"a group of individuals [...] combined or making a joint effort to undertake some specific duty"
--- Quote from: Ryan on April 03, 2021, 04:08:29 PM ---A criminal syndicate, like the mafia in Sicily, has syndications as the mob/mafia here in the states and elsewhere. This is not just any commerce, but "black market" commerce.
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My focus is more on the "criminal" action of the "syndicate"; The "criminal" action of the group of individuals making a joint effort to undertake some specific duty. Of which the criminality will be presented elsewhere in the discussion.
--- Quote ---This syndicate, the private people who work government buying and selling on the black market using..."extortion". "do this or else..." a veiled threat, at least. a threat of violence.
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Sorry. You lost me there.
--- Quote ---Markets are manipulated, countries couped and sovereign citizens are denied their access to the political means of production with violence. Often no threat given. But threats as well.
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Um... Yeah?
--- Quote ---This is The United States Government as it currently is, not as all governments are or must be. The US Government is Corporate Socialism. The State is owned by the donor class. This is the private group of individuals doing criminal things via extortion.
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Even though I understand and agree with what I think you are presenting, I find I must reject it as hyperbole. Shareholders are the owners of corporations such as Walmart, General Motors, General Electric, Etc. The stock certificates are proof of ownership.
So I find I must challenge you to provide proof of ownership of government... And loans to government via purchasing savings bonds are not valid as such proof of ownership any more than a bank's lien on a house proves the bank owns the house.
--- Quote ---For Example, The Federal Reserve and Central Banksters in general.
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I've read The Creature From Jekyll Island. I've also read a counter claim dissing the book... As in disrespecting and dismissing the book for calling the Member Banks as being a private bank cartel. What swayed my thinking was the rules regarding who gets the profits from the Federal Reserve system banks. That's some examination I will have to undertake. As a Boomer, I sometimes suffer from CRS. <shrug> Not germane to my narrow focus point.
--- Quote ---Then there is the original point. Government is not a private industry. It is a public one.
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At this moment, I view that as a distinction of no concern... Because government is a ruling entity. Rules to be obeyed or be hurt for not obeying.
--- Quote ---The private individual syndicates are us. We are the ones accepting and allowing the other private individuals to do their thing.
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And again, sorry, this makes no sense to me.
There is me. There is you. There are others. There is no we.
I do agree that people are allowing their rights to be trampled by the criminals called government.
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