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Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: June 26, 2021, 06:17:19 PM »

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Dale Eastman i’m definitely not brainwashed! I am free in Christ and very joyful that I serve mighty God! Any argument I give to prove God created the government will come from the holy Bible and your harden heart and darken mind will refuse to accept any answer I give!
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Okay. I accept your admission that you can not prove god created government.

Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing god's signature on The Declaration of Independence, The Articles of Confederation, nor The Constitution.

Those three organic documents being the means by which the Federal government of the United States was created.

Now if YOUR god created the British Monarchy by the bullshit fantasy of "Divine Right of Kings" then the Colonies rejecting the King's government means the entire U.S. that grew from the colonies has rejected YOUR god's alleged authority, and can never be a Christian Nation as other buybull thumpers errantly believe.

So let us, you and I, pretend I have never touched a bible, much less opened one and read anything written in it. Of the two of us, that makes you the expert on god. And with god's guidance, how can you fail to give glory to YOUR god by failing to guide me to knowledge of god and subsequent repentance for being the sinful creature god created?

What, specifically, are the traits, properties, attributes, & characteristics of YOUR god?
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the easy way I can prove my case here on Facebook. Would compare borders to having private property. Would you be okay if some random stranger came and just started farming your land or living in your house?

Just a wee little logical flaw... National boarders do include "SOME" private property and some "public" property, like streets and sidewalks. So according to your implied fence the boarders and keep them‡ out wish, they‡ would have no right to walk on and use the sidewalks? Are you pretending to be god?

‡"Them" and "They" being anybody who is not M.D. nor specifically allowed by M.D.




Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: June 26, 2021, 05:45:47 PM »

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I’m referring to the post about being an illegal!
Law is made by a government!
Yes the holy Bible is %100 true and accurate!
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Yes the holy Bible is %100 true and accurate!

Get Thee Behind Me Satan. In other words, I do not wish to argue with you about your unprovable beliefs, though such would be very tempting to do.

What I am doing is focusing on the original reason I challenged your comment.

I'm now asking you for a fourth time: How is law made?

You stated:
Law is made by a government!

You get ½ credit for that answer.

This government law is made by what authority?
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Dale Eastman your post are entirely to long to take the time out of my day to respond to all of it! The Bible is fact, end of story!

Exactly if there were no laws against people coming to what is now the United States the Seth’s post holds no weight!

I definitely don’t want to make this sound rude so if it come off that way I apologize! I’m not sure if you know this but the government makes laws!
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I’m not sure if you know this but the government makes laws!

Second request for an answer: This government law is made by what authority?

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Dale Eastman for more a an in-depth answer you should definitely read the Old Testament, it gives great answers on how the government should operate! My short answer is God created government and sovereign appoints the people to be in the position they’re in. Humans are sinful and corrupt and that’s why the majority the governments in this world operate poorly because humans are corrupt and fallen!
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Okay. Since you are so brainwashed... Let's talk about YOUR god.

Prove YOUR god created government.
Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: June 26, 2021, 03:51:58 PM »

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I am not in this country illegally and as far as I know we did not break the Native American immigration laws if they had any at all!
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There is creation so that means there is a creator! God has revealed his character throughout the pages of the holy Bible!
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭
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I am not in this country illegally [...]

Not the issue I am challenging you about. I am challenging your assumptions. I wrote NOTHING about immigration law. I challenged you on where law comes from. You chose to go off on some buybull thumping tangent.

➽ [...] and as far as I know we did not break the Native American immigration laws if they had any at all!

Who, specifically, is this "we"? Do you have evidence that any one of those "we", other than yourself, authorized you to speak/write for them?

By context, I am assuming you live somewhere within the external boundaries of the continental United States. Did you immigrate to this territory or did you get born into this territory?

There is creation so that means there is a creator!

So I'm going to ask you a second time: Please provide verifiable proof of this "god", this "creator," that created whatever you are claiming was created.

And I'm going to ask you a third time: How is law made?

God has revealed his character throughout the pages of the holy Bible!

Sorry to break this news to you: The buybull is the claim, not the proof.
Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: June 26, 2021, 11:55:58 AM »

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Originally God created law! So were the first immigrants to now what is the United States illegal immigrants? This is a direct question to what shown in S’s post!
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Thank you for having this conversation. Do me a favor and make sure you tag me so I know you have replied.

➽ Originally God created law!

As the claimant making the statement, It is not my duty to disprove your complaint, It is yours to provide proof of your statement.

Proof of god please?
Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: June 26, 2021, 11:52:21 AM »

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i don’t understand your confusion on what law is. I tried to clear up my initial question with asking in a different way!
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Simply stated: Law is a command to do or not to do some action.

I understand that you think I have a confusion regarding what law is. I don't. So that means you don't understand why I'm being a pedantic asshole. I get that, and I get that a lot. I do this because of what has been attributed as Voltaire's Admonition: If you wish to communicate, define your terms.

Before I forget, I wish to acknowledge your questions. Questions, which themselves have opened the door to further discussion, and actual direct answers further in this discussion... Provided I don't piss you off by triggering cognitive dissonance. I get that a lot also. Then the convo ends.

I am not yet ready to share my definition. If you would be so kind as to bear with me, I have questions to guide you to me definition.

How is law made?
Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: June 26, 2021, 11:51:15 AM »

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Did native Americans have immigration laws?
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Please define "law"?
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How did natives American punish people who came here illegally? How were immigrants supposed to get permission to come here? Did all Native American tribes have an agreement on immigration or did they all have different policies?
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Sir, I asked you to define law.